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.. just seen this puzzle in the news paper.. thort u lot might like it..
--> each colour dot represents a man with a coloured hat on..
--> no one knows what colour hat they have on
--> the men can only look in the direction the arrow is pointing
--> the person on the other side of the wall is not visable by the other 3 and visa versa
Question --> who is the only man that knows for 100% what colour his hat is ?? and why ??
he he.. that should get u all thinking
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Mathew
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hmmm.... is it D ??
cuz when he looks left (with the arrow) he can see a pattern, and the guy behind the wall isn't behind, but higher !!
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dunno...
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tRANCEMASTER wrote: | hmmm.... is it D ??
cuz when he looks left (with the arrow) he can see a pattern, and the guy behind the wall isn't behind, but higher !! |
nothing to do with the pattern and nothing to do with the guy being higher than the wall..
.. go on.. keep trying
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s h i t ... hmmm... this is a good one i have to admit !!
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hmmm, this is tuff, maybe theres a mirror on the wall and B is nearest!!? i really dont know!!!
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Above&Beyond wrote: | hmmm, this is tuff, maybe theres a mirror on the wall |
hehe, thats what i thought, and maybe he's tallest so he can see himself at the back?
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Above&Beyond wrote: | hmmm, this is tuff, maybe theres a mirror on the wall and B is nearest!!? i really dont know!!! |
no mirrors...
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i'll take a stupid crack at it
since there all men, bound to talk to each other
i say the one in the middle C
D aint gonna know since one one cant look at him and tell what colour hat he's got on
but he can see what C got on and tell him, now C can tell B what coulu hat he got on,
but A behind wall is in the dark
now assuming the coulred dots repreent the coulurs of the hats ie red and blue
Mr C can deduct by reasoning that the colour scheme is alternate in coulrs and that since he knows the colour of his hat and the guy infront, he can assume the his theory is correct, so applying his half assed, very assuming logic, he can be fairly certain his hat colour is indeed what mr D said, as he's got 2 results to work with,
hmm, dunno just a wierd explanation, which i formulated, when i got vexed at the puzzle after a few minutes, so i made one in my mind that satisfies me and puts my mind at ease!!!!
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i forgot to mention.. they cant talk...
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Ami wrote: | i'll take a stupid crack at it
since there all men, bound to talk to each other
i say the one in the middle C
D aint gonna know since one one cant look at him and tell what colour hat he's got on
but he can see what C got on and tell him, now C can tell B what coulu hat he got on,
but A behind wall is in the dark
now assuming the coulred dots repreent the coulurs of the hats ie red and blue
Mr C can deduct by reasoning that the colour scheme is alternate in coulrs and that since he knows the colour of his hat and the guy infront, he can assume the his theory is correct, so applying his half assed, very assuming logic, he can be fairly certain his hat colour is indeed what mr D said, as he's got 2 results to work with,
hmm, dunno just a wierd explanation, which i formulated, when i got vexed at the puzzle after a few minutes, so i made one in my mind that satisfies me and puts my mind at ease!!!! |
shit, im really confused now! Andy, let us out of our misery!!!
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Above&Beyond wrote: | Andy, let us out of our misery!!! |
go on then...
person C is the person that knows.. the reason being...
... if person C had a red hat on.. then person D would know he had a blue one on.. because he could see two red hats...
however since person D hasnt called out... person C knows he must have a blue hat on...
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hmm, ok they cant talk, but they can see right
ok, D looks infront of him and sees what C got on and then sees what B got on and deducts since the guy (C) infront got a blue one and the guy infront of him got a red one then hes got a blue one....im picking at straws here!!!
ok, now the really stupid ones, i say A as he has wall to cover his arse he lobs a grenade over, kills B C D, now since they died, they didnt know what coulor hats they got on
now A takes his hat off and looks at the colour, now since no ones arround he can be content with the result without fear of consquences
dont tell me this was in The Sun, or a paper similiar, man that would be a blow
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ok, now the really stupid ones, i say A as he has wall to cover his arse he lobs a grenade over, kills B C D, now since they died, they didnt know what coulor hats they got on
now A takes his hat off and looks at the colour, now since no ones arround he can be content with the result without fear of consquences
dont tell me this was in The Sun, or a paper similiar, man that would be a blow |
LOL LOL LOL LOL.... unfortunatly not correct... see post above for right answer
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Im still confused. Bollox to this, im off to bed!
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hmm so i did get the right answer by saying person C and sort of right way of analysis, just 1 thing
Quote: | however since person D hasnt called out... |
i thought speech or even the idea of it was out of the question!!
so really theres a bit of an discrepancy with the answer as speech is in part a key point in the answer
oh, and if you really wanna be analytical, there is no way anyone could be certain of the coulor, by assuming and deducting the answer, its kinda like that schrodinger cat puzzle, you cant find out until you see it for your self, all other answers are expressions of likelyhood and probablities!!
anyway was good to waste a few brain cells on it
you could've been more entertaining if you never revealed the answer!!! and seen the explanations flood in and ppl being in misery for an eternity!!
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you could've been more entertaining if you never revealed the answer!!! and seen the explanations flood in and ppl being in misery for an eternity!! |
.. i feel u would have all been rather pi$$ed off at me if id of done that tho.. lol... and esp with u threatening to throw bricks threw ppls windows in another post... i cant be doing with them threw mine u aint that far away from me
as for the speach discrepansy thing.. i should have put
'no speach is allowed unless u r saying what colour u r.. and if u r rong u all get killed' >> that could have worked.. and thats where your grenade comes in
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wtf !!?? u said they didn't know the colours.... so how did they know there was 2 red and 2 blue ??
NM... it was a good puzzle
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oh dear... maybe i missed a few details out..
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thats just damm confusing
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