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Steven H The Earthquaker Club Franchise Owner
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On recent events, a lot of countries and states are deciding to not allow smoking in bars/pubs. Here is what myself and stream were talking about just a few minutes ago:
Steven Hone™ says:
new law coming in on january where people cannot smoke in bars... like New York!
Stream says:
same here
Steven Hone™ says:
so bars will loose custom i guess
Stream says:
i think they will gain
Stream says:
means i can start going out again
Steven Hone™ says:
yes but people must smoke while they consume alcohol, and 80% of drinkers in ireland are smokers... this means they will prefer to get carry outs from supermarkets and offlicences and drink at home before going to a club
Stream says:
maybe
Steven Hone™ says:
but thats just ireland
Steven Hone™ says:
i think it will have an influence on drugs also
Steven Hone™ says:
people will maybe take E or smoke cannibis more now cause when they do that before going to a pub, i think they dont smoke much for a few hours
Stream says:
i'm not sure...but i think banning bar-smoking is an excellent idea...
Steven Hone™ says:
i agree... from a family point of view also
Steven Hone™ says:
but i think it should be allowed if new ventillation systems were installed, and/or maybe no smoking before a certain time such as 10 or 11pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:55 pm |
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Bradz Brad Bar Staff
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I personaly dont like people smoking near me, does me head in! its a good idea... but i think pubs will lose business cuz smokers are addicted and cant go a day without a fag! so yeah they will go to the offys but i dont care as long as there smoke is away from me!  _________________ The earth turns, but we don't feel it move, and one night you look up, one spark, and the sky is on fire
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i think it'll have to be a nationwide thing if they do it... if one club bans smoking they all do.. no expetions..
i think it will decrease the amount of young smokers  _________________
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Steven H The Earthquaker Club Franchise Owner
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| It is going to be a very popular law among nations leaders and governments... So i guess its gonna be all over the world eventually |
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:06 pm |
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| About time, you can't be naked in the street so why can you smoke |
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Dont smoke myself. Banning it in pubs is a little extreme to be honest, would take away the feel of a traditional pub. Banning it in clubs, triky. It dont matter where you ban it, people will still smoke. _________________ www.davehart.me |
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Steven H The Earthquaker Club Franchise Owner
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| Yea even tho drugs are illegal, people still take them.... so i dont think smoking will be different |
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| i know that the bars and the clubs will lose a lot of revenue from banning smoking. what kinda smoker would want to pay money to get into a club in which they would have to leave if they were jonesing for a cig? the cigarette industry gives governments TONS of money in revenue coming from taxes, i don't think that the govts are that stupid... this is coming from the perspective of someone who smokes and has quit.. and then started up.. then quit =) even if it were to happen.. the funds that would be lost would quickly wake up the officials and a new solution, rather than completely banning smoking, would come in effect to rectify the financial dollars lost from the ban.. |
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i they ban smoking.....
--> sales will drop
--> so goverment will not get as much £££ from cigs in taxes
--> tax rates will increase.. increasing price of beer & petrol  _________________
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Steven H The Earthquaker Club Franchise Owner
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| GOvernemnts who implement this ban are stupid... simple as that |
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Can't ever see this government imposing a ban in this country, not before the next genral election anyway, would not be a popular move. _________________ www.davehart.me |
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About the tax money from cigs:
Here is Canada, the government has a huge ant-smoking campaign on with a hotline and posters and ads. I think the government ends up spending more on the health care of smokers who have smoking-related diseases than they actually get in tax money. _________________ Do you know the difference between an error and a mistake? Anyone can make an error. But that error does not become a mistake until you refuse to correct it.
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technics Justin Tyme Dominating the Dancefloor
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i highly doubt that, either way, i all evens out in some way
| Viceroy wrote: | About the tax money from cigs:
Here is Canada, the government has a huge ant-smoking campaign on with a hotline and posters and ads. I think the government ends up spending more on the health care of smokers who have smoking-related diseases than they actually get in tax money. |
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| ((-&E-)) wrote: | i they ban smoking.....
--> sales will drop
--> so goverment will not get as much £££ from cigs in taxes
--> tax rates will increase.. increasing price of beer & petrol  |
If people smoke less, fewer people will get ill (cancer etc.)
--> government will use less money on health-care  |
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| Stream wrote: | | ((-&E-)) wrote: | i they ban smoking.....
--> sales will drop
--> so goverment will not get as much £££ from cigs in taxes
--> tax rates will increase.. increasing price of beer & petrol  |
If people smoke less, fewer people will get ill (cancer etc.)
--> government will use less money on health-care  |
..true
had to out smart me didnt you  _________________
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..true
had to out smart me didnt you  |
It's just because I'm older than you -> got more wisdom  |
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| Stream wrote: | | ((-&E-)) wrote: |
..true
had to out smart me didnt you  |
It's just because I'm older than you -> got more wisdom  |
.. lol
ill try harder next time  _________________
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| OK i'm a smoker and i think banning smoking in bars is a good idea because everyone who smokes is lying if they said they wouldn't rather not smoke |
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Taking the tax angle here. Just put the Tax they charge for petrol onto fags! See of folk still smoke then. _________________ www.davehart.me |
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| Stream wrote: | | ((-&E-)) wrote: | i they ban smoking.....
--> sales will drop
--> so goverment will not get as much £££ from cigs in taxes
--> tax rates will increase.. increasing price of beer & petrol  |
If people smoke less, fewer people will get ill (cancer etc.)
--> government will use less money on health-care  |
That's what I tried to say!  _________________ Do you know the difference between an error and a mistake? Anyone can make an error. But that error does not become a mistake until you refuse to correct it.
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| davehart wrote: | | Taking the tax angle here. Just put the Tax they charge for petrol onto fags! See of folk still smoke then. |
.. id be quite happy for every smoker to smoke them selves to death if they'd put the tax thats on petrol & beer onto cigs...
(does that sound a bit harsh ?? ) _________________
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| ((-&E-)) wrote: | | davehart wrote: | | Taking the tax angle here. Just put the Tax they charge for petrol onto fags! See of folk still smoke then. |
.. id be quite happy for every smoker to smoke them selves to death if they'd put the tax thats on petrol & beer onto cigs...
(does that sound a bit harsh ?? ) |
No tax on beer? That that's a dam good idea. _________________ www.davehart.me |
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